Swac 2012 Football Attendance - Week 11


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Prairie View A&M at Miss Valley St
Attendance: 2059

Ark-Pine Bluff at Grambling St
Attendance: 7324

Texas Southern at Alcorn State
Attendance: 4309

Alabama A&M at Jackson State
Attendance: 8445

Alabama State at Southern U
Attendance: 14220
 
Where have the fans gone?

Jackson State had won its last three football games and was playing for the SWAC East Championship and the weather was perfect for a football game on November 10, 2012. The announced attendance for the Jackson State/Alabama A&M game was 8,445.

Where have the fans gone? I had a discussion with some JSU fans yesterday and here are some of the reasons they gave for the decrease in attendance at JSU football games:

1. Ticket prices ($30 for game day is too high, some fans decide game day if they are going to attend the game)
2. Kick off times are too early
3. SWAC rules doesn't allow the band to play like they used to and the games are boring (got to give non-diehard football fans a reason to attend the game)
4. Fans left the game during the Bell era and have not returned
5. SWAC teams are not winning
6. Casinos

Average JSU home attendance from 1987 to 2012:

1987 – 32,734
1989 – 32,269
1993 – 34,100
1995 – 34,849
1997 – 38,873
1999 – 28,933
2001 – 29,067
2003 – 18,196
2005 – 15,686
2007 – 16,117
2009 – 16,334
2010 – 24,140
2011 – 23,166
2012 – 14,462

How do we get the fans to return to JSU/SWAC football games?


http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/stats/football/attendance/index.html

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/jast/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2010InformationGuide.pdf
 
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Re: Where have the fans gone?

So after 12 years, a school can't have a "down" year? These folks commenting need to look at their own attendance before they start sweeping around somebody else's front door.
 
Re: Where have the fans gone?

Jacksonian said:
Jackson State had won its last three football games and was playing for the SWAC East Championship and the weather was perfect for a football game on November 10, 2012. The announced attendance for the Jackson State/Alabama A&M game was 8,445.

Where have the fans gone? I had a discussion with some JSU fans yesterday and here are some of the reasons they gave for the decrease in attendance at JSU football games:

1. Ticket prices ($30 for game day is too high, some fans decide game day if they are going to attend the game)
2. Kick off times are too early
3. SWAC rules doesn't allow the band to play like they used to and the games are boring (got to give non-diehard football fans a reason to attend the game)
4. Fans left the game during the Bell era and have not returned
5. SWAC teams are not winning
6. Casinos

Average JSU home attendance from 1987 to 2012:

1987 – 32,734
1989 – 32,269
1993 – 34,100
1995 – 34,849
1997 – 38,873
1999 – 28,933
2001 – 29,067
2003 – 18,196
2005 – 15,686
2007 – 16,117
2009 – 16,334
2010 – 24,140
2011 – 23,166
2012 – 14,462

How do we get the fans to return to JSU/SWAC football games?


http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/stats/football/attendance/index.html

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/jast/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2010InformationGuide.pdf
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But how do they explain the attendance boom the last 2 seasons and then follow it up with the horrible attendance this year?
 
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number1 said:
But how do they explain the attendance boom the last 2 seasons and then follow it up with the horrible attendance this year?
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The attendance is horrible by JSU standards but most SWAC schools would be happy with that average.

Our home schedule was terrible this year and the dates and times of certain games were changed for some unknown reason.

Hope the AD gets our schedule right next season. We shouldn't have to wait almost a whole month for our first home game and most of our games should be after six.
Playing Miss. State didn't help much either.
 
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Okay, because I knew those other excuses could have easily been applied to the 2010 and 2011 season too, but y'all had great numbers during those seasons, and this season y'all were playing for the Championship.
 
Re: Where have the fans gone?

I think it is The Curse of Dumbbell. Jsu hasn't been the same since or their fan base.
 
Re: Where have the fans gone?

JayRob said:
What's yours?:noidea:

Even in a bad year, we average more than 90 percent of SWAC schools. Like I said, sweep around your own front door before you try to sweep around somebody else's whose doing better than you.
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True, but schools like JSU and TSU are at a major advantage over schools like Alcorn and Gram. You guys are located in major cities that are predominately black.
 
Re: Where have the fans gone?

H-town is not predominantly Black and a lot of those Black folk are transplants who do not come with regularity to our games. I am not making excuses for our alumni but those are the facts.



Styles said:
True, but schools like JSU and TSU are at a major advantage over schools like Alcorn and Gram. You guys are located in major cities that are predominately black.
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if it was 7K+ at the grambling/UAPB game then, I got dread locks! 7K+??? No way! 4K maybe!!!!
 
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Devil's Gun Trigger Man said:
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I was thinking the same thing right before I reached your post boy JayRo was going really hard it those excuses...But Jackson seriouly I am surprise that this was all you guys could pull seeing your team was playing to get somewhere...(whispering-ain't like there was something to else to do in that 2 horse town)!
 
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DallasCowboyGirl said:
I was thinking the same thing right before I reached your post boy JayRo was going really hard it those excuses...But Jackson seriouly I am surprise that this was all you guys could pull seeing your team was playing to get somewhere...(whispering-ain't like there was something to else to do in that 2 horse town)!
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I would need to see pics of the crowd. Even our beat writer said it looked like more was there. Also, the SU crowd was probably a bit of an undercount but regardless, MANY 1-AA teams would love to have 9K paying fans.
This year is over. We got 14K.. I'm not crying about it. That is no worse than second in the SWAC and probably BCF.
 
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Not only Houston is nowhere near being predominately Black, but I didn't know Jackson, MS was a major city????

Somebody seriously needs to look at the population and demographical makeup of places in this country.
 
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JayRob said:
The attendance is horrible by JSU standards but most SWAC schools would be happy with that average.

Our home schedule was terrible this year and the dates and times of certain games were changed for some unknown reason.

Hope the AD gets our schedule right next season. We shouldn't have to wait almost a whole month for our first home game and most of our games should be after six.
Playing Miss. State didn't help much either.
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JSU's AD is clueless on appropriate game times, scheduling and attendance, she does not communicate with Jackson State fans.
 
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Styles said:
True, but schools like JSU and TSU are at a major advantage over schools like Alcorn and Gram. You guys are located in major cities that are predominately black.
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...for the record...
pop of houston - 2,099,451, black pop - 525, 000
pop of jackson - _173,514, black pop - 137,000
 
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Styles said:
True, but schools like JSU and TSU are at a major advantage over schools like Alcorn and Gram. You guys are located in major cities that are predominately black.
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There was a time when Alcorn was close to the top in SWAC attendance. What's your excuse now? Perhaps that was a fluke time in history.

As far as having a major advantage, your theory is seriously flawed. What about Houston and Texas Southern? That's 4 million folks to choose from, yet they can't average 9,000.
What about Dallas and PV? That's 3 million folks to choose from, yet they can't average 9,000?
 
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JayRob said:
There was a time when Alcorn was close to the top in SWAC attendance. What's your excuse now? Perhaps that was a fluke time in history.

As far as having a major advantage, your theory is seriously flawed. What about Houston and Texas Southern? That's 4 million folks to choose from, yet they can't average 9,000.
What about Dallas and PV? That's 3 million folks to choose from, yet they can't average 9,000?
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Houston is much closer to PV than Dallas.
 
Re: Where have the fans gone?

Jacksonian said:
Jackson State had won its last three football games and was playing for the SWAC East Championship and the weather was perfect for a football game on November 10, 2012. The announced attendance for the Jackson State/Alabama A&M game was 8,445.

Where have the fans gone? I had a discussion with some JSU fans yesterday and here are some of the reasons they gave for the decrease in attendance at JSU football games:

1. Ticket prices ($30 for game day is too high, some fans decide game day if they are going to attend the game)
2. Kick off times are too early
3. SWAC rules doesn't allow the band to play like they used to and the games are boring (got to give non-diehard football fans a reason to attend the game)
4. Fans left the game during the Bell era and have not returned
5. SWAC teams are not winning
6. Casinos

Average JSU home attendance from 1987 to 2012:

1987 – 32,734
1989 – 32,269
1993 – 34,100
1995 – 34,849
1997 – 38,873
1999 – 28,933
2001 – 29,067
2003 – 18,196
2005 – 15,686
2007 – 16,117
2009 – 16,334
2010 – 24,140
2011 – 23,166
2012 – 14,462

How do we get the fans to return to JSU/SWAC football games?


http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/ncaa/resources/stats/football/attendance/index.html

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/jast/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/2010InformationGuide.pdf
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